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James's avatar

I see a lot of comments about how Madonna's neck has dissapeared lately and I wonder about her biomechanics... I think dancing in heels would be one thing that's messed her up but I would love for you to talk about madonna.. I feel like she's someone who could have really gone down the route of finding out about this and addressing it too

EGK's avatar

hmm interesting.. yes ill look into her

Carlen Altman's avatar

Well-written as always! She had lots of public mental health issues, and perhaps that was also connected at least partially to her dental work as well. Prayers for the return of the curve of spee, to all - rich and poor! 🫡

EGK's avatar

oh very interesting.. i wasnt aware of that.

yes the mental health issues will def have a strong link in my view

Christina Sophia's avatar

Good article, thx for pointing out these things which seem a little subtle to me. But I did see how her smile looks crooked later. Too bad for her. I don't think she looks that bad now, but I guess her down hill course will continue. Maybe you can reach out.

EGK's avatar

i put some effort into trying to get another A-lister to buy in awhile back after their relative reached out to me.

But it was a lost cause.

My learning from that was.. without a very close friend/relative buy-in you are simply not gonna be taken seriously.

These 'stars' probably get hundreds of people writing to them a day

Christina Sophia's avatar

That's cool, you've tried. But I'm sure you are right - without an in you will not get their attention. Too bad. Good subjects for us to learn from tho!

Just me's avatar

I find it distasteful to write about her looks. Leave the woman alone.

EGK's avatar

ive written about numerous men and women that are collapsing and use them to show the correlation to dental work.

i've written about 30+ people so i would not say that im specifically targeting her

Just me's avatar

I find it distasteful to write about other people’s looks in that way.

Kathy’s Attic's avatar

~I find beauty in the Soul, not the container ~

Jake's avatar

I had wondered what happened to Catherine as I thought she was one of the most beautiful women on the planet. Dentists have a knack for ruining people’s health and looks. Besides ruining people’s health with mercury amalgams now I know they can also change the structure of your face. Either way I still think she is beautiful.

Brent Rice's avatar

Search 'John Cusack plastic surgery'. Men should age naturally.

Hortense60's avatar

She appears to have had had facial fillers at some point. As the skin thins with age, that can look less flattering. Mostly, though, what I see in the photographs drawing so much criticism is bad makeup that emphasizes pores and lines. I think older women (I am a decade older than she) look better with minimal makeup.

With so many people using Ozempic and related meds, that is a possibility, too. Those medications affect the skin, negatively. Ozempic face is a real thing.

Kerry Panavas's avatar

She is HILARIOUS as Morticia!

Ben L.'s avatar

Don't think she much cares. She married M. Douglas in a sugar daddy arrangement where she's paid millions every year just for being married whether she works or not.

Sally Doran's avatar

So happy not to be famous. Zeta-Jones already has battled with her mental health but now, even trying to live relatively privately, she’s the subject of an essay from a Substack followed by many thousands that exists to show how she’s “collapsing” due to (maybe) dental work.

EGK's avatar

If you saw the hundreds of people in our Skool community who have talked about having numerous physical and mental health issues.. it may not seem like such a stretch.

Fact is… famous people that do dental work are good examples to analyse for what we are saying. And we view that we’re trying to educate folks about something that is damaging lots of people is (in my view) blaringly obvious.

Elizabeth HDF's avatar

She looks amazing in Kill Jackie. Love her true accent!

Jay's avatar

It could just be that people of northwestern European ancestry (England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales) don’t age well. Myself included.

EGK's avatar

i think if you looked at hte data, especially if you went back 50-100 yrs, you'd find that they prob arent that different.

Carsen LaPlante's avatar

I have veneers on top front 6 teeth, I have been using the R3 series since April. If I keep it up can I keep my curve of speed going into my older years? I'm 35