Biomechanics vs. the Airway dentists
I break down a recent interview of Dr. Kalli Hale DDS, founder of Toothpillow
Someone recently sent me this podcast of Dr. Kalli Hale DDS being interviewed and talking about airway dentistry.
She is a founder of Toothpillow and so also a pretty good example of how I view things vs. how Toothpillow/Myobrace views things.
Because they very much view things from an ‘airway dentistry’ perspective. Which very much carries with it a strong influence from Orthotropics and the things that Dr. John and Mike Mew have been saying for years.
So this is a good one to understand where what i am saying is different.
And why i think i’m further along the spectrum of ‘truth’ than they are.
As well as why I think this goes far further than they currently believe.
The extent of the problem
Let’s start at how deep the problem goes as this is how they intro things at the start of the podcast.
Dr. Hale talks about the tie to ADHD, bedwetting, sleep quality, and the structure of your face.
Let me say that I agree with all of those things. All of those things are a function of biomechancial collapse. As well as about a thousand other things.
What do I mean?
Well basically I am saying that these same biomechanics are the root cause of almost all disease. I’m saying the skull and skeleton collapse and that is what causes basically almost everything that goes wrong with the human body except things that are truly ‘genetic’, which i believe is extremely rare.
So i’m basically saying that pretty much all heart attacks, all cancers, all neurological diseases are all a function of this biomechanical collapse.
I am also saying that this stuff is the root cause of aging and that perhaps humans don’t have to die. Because i don’t think we actually ‘age’… rather what we consider to be aging is just biomechanical collapse and we can halt and even reverse it.
I am also saying that this is the root cause of beauty. Dr. Hale says that this stuff is key when you’re a developing child to having a ‘forward grown face’, but I go far, far further in my view.
I say that any child or adult can fix this stuff at any age. And it’s not just about fixing your face, but you can also fix your body.
So as you see.. i view that this still goes a million miles deeper than Dr. Hale does. And i’m pretty sure i’m going to be more right than she is.
To her everything is rooted in the airway
When you hear Dr. Hale speaking she relates everything back to the airway and how you sleep. Let’s take an example…
The cause of bedwetting? To her its the airway.
What is the connection? She tries to explain it away but it’s extremely weak in my view.
Why is it weak? Because in reality there IS NO direct connection between the airway and bedwetting.
I bet you will find tons of people and even kids with breathing issues that do not wet their beds. And you will find some kids that wet their beds but have no major breathing issues.
And since there are exceptions you can draw the conclusion that there is NO direct cause and effect relationship. Rather there is correlation!
Why is there correlation?
Because both bedwetting and airway issues are a function of collapse in my view.
And so why do I view that some kids and even some adults wet their beds?
Well because the organs that control their bladders have most likely been compromised. And why were they compromised?
Because with biomechanical collapse I am essentially saying that the person’s entire skeleton has been twisted into a compensation pattern and the organs have been displaced and/or compressed to some extent.
I’m not trying to draw some fake line between bedwetting and the airway. Rather I am drawing a very direct line between bedwetting and the organs that control the bladder being compromised.
Do you see the difference?
She likes to say it’s all about nose breathing
At 2:50 she talks about how it is all about breathing through your nose. “Mouthbreathing is a hidden epidemic in kids,” she says.
And she says not breathing through your nose will change the shape of your face. Which is a page out of the late Dr. John Mew’s book who she even says that she once met.
But I just don’t think these folks have thought about this logically.
Logic dictates that direct cause and effect has pretty much zero exceptions.
So how will they explain all the people that are mouthbreathing with their Reviv at night and still making progress? And I can tell you for a fact that there is a lot of them because it is hard for many folks to close their mouth early on.
I, myself, mouthbreathe occasionally and I don’t care. I know my structure is improving quickly everyday regardless.
The reason I don’t give a shit whether i breathe through my nose or my mouth is because i don’t think mouthbreathing is the cause of ANYTHING structural.
Rather it is a symptom of collapse as I talk about in this article:
So who will be right in this argument, me or the airway dentists?
I’m very confident i will again be right here. Not because i am arrogant.. but rather because the logic fits so much tighter with what actually happens.
Airway dentists love to talk about the tongue
At some point she says something like “If your tongue is not at the roof of your mouth, your jaw is going to misdevelop.”
And so airway dentists love chanting the myofunctional therapy mantra. A bit like Dr. Mike Mew does.
For years starting in 2015 I bought it. I did the myofunctional therapy, I did the tongue tie release, and then I did the ALF appliance for years… which also aligns tightly to that whole line of thought.
And what did I conclude?
I concluded the tongue is at most a sideshow. It is a very ineffective tool to change your structure and if you aren’t wearing a mouthguard then most of your progress will regress right back.
I wrote about this here:
But note that I am not saying that the tongue should not sit on the roof of your mouth. It obviously should.
Rather I am saying that through the biomechanics of wearing a mouthguard like Reviv my tongue posture is constantly improving while paying zero attention to it.
My tongue went from the middle of my mouth in 2020 to the roof of my mouth today and I have never done a single minute of myofunctional therapy.
And the same will happen with everyone else that is doing this Reviv process.
Orthodontics
At the start she said a few things i agreed with like:
“Tooth grinding and snoring is not something kids will just grow out of.”
“Braces are a temporary solution for straight teeth.”
But after this hopeful start it was all downhill in terms of our alignment. Because she says things like:
“Your muscles dictate the positioning of your teeth.” - completely disagree
“My tongue tie had prevented my palate from widening” - completely disagree
“You have to widen the jaws first and then do the teeth.” - completely disagree
I dont think its about timing. You NEVER need orthodontics in my view.
And yet she proudly states that she’s one of the biggest invisalign providers in Texas.
I heard that and I was just like… “Ok you just don’t get it lady.”
The teeth are where the skull wants them. And in my view you focus on correcting the skull through biomechanics and the teeth just ‘go for the ride’.
Because the teeth always need to be where the skull wants them. ie. if you are ever doing something that requires a retainer after to hold the teeth where they are, you know you have done something wrong.
So yes.. our views on orthodontics differ completely.
She thinks they are still relatively ok and I think they will one day be considered to be the medical equvalient of ‘lobotomies’. They crush your skull and will be criminal one day.
Closing thoughts
Perhaps the biggest difference between me and this Dr. Kalli Hale is in my view how we approached the problem.
She came at it by researching and leveraging a lot of the popular thinking around airway dentistry.
I did not.
I came at this purely by logic.
I assumed nothing. In fact I kind of forced myself into the mindset of…”let’s just assume all of these dentists & orthodontists are complete idiots and I am going to derive the rules of this game purely based on logic.”
Plus i had my old friend, Marcello, who was a brilliant mind.
By doing this… i freed myself up to search for true cause and effect. And not correlation.
The logic simply ties up with what i am saying far far better than with what she is saying. I can blow lots of holes into her logic as i’ve done above… and she will find pretty much zero logic holes to blow into mine.
But I don’t want to be overly negative. I think airway dentistry is a half step in the right direction.
They are calling out some very important truths like the fact that you shoudn’t just pull out teeth, you should use appliances like Toothpillow at a young age, etc.
But they are trying to create change the conventional way.
They probably want to slowly change the curriculum in dental schools and orthodontic residency programs. This takes many years.
I don’t care about any of that. I want to disrupt them.
I want to wipe out the entire profession of orthodontics because i consider it useless. And for me success looks like orthodontists being unemployed and looking for a new career.
How do I plan on achieving this? I’m gonna do things the way you do them in 2025.
My weapons are things like Tiktok, community platforms like Skool, and getting people true results without having any dentist or orthodontist involved at all.
So yeah… me and Dr. Hale differ a bit in our views and our methods.
And this is essentially reflected in the differences between the approach of Toothpillow and Reviv.











Ken, saw that video. My daughter never wet the bed. You’re correct . And my 15 year old… she has the static retainer. I’m getting her reviv. The blue one, adult or or children’s yellow one?
I don't want to say this, but it's hard to take you seriously when you claim that pretty much every health issue except genetic ones can be corrected by a mouth guard. If you don't have proof of that (which you don't), don't make such a huge claim. I know that was your experience so far but that's obviously not enough to extrapolate in general.
You say people wearing Reviv are often mouth breathing at the beginning so that discredits the lady's claim. I don't know if her claim is accurate or not but wearing your mouth guard blocks the mouth from drying out for the most part so it's not even close to the same as regular mouth breathing.