by 'this appliance' you are referring to Reviv right? Yes i think any appliance (eg. mouthguard) that puts space between teeth without locking a bite will over time grow your palate and bring 'forward growth' (which I prefer to call inflating the skull).
I'd love to be able to correct my biomechanics and bought one of your devices. It's too big though and no response about what to do. I want a smaller device, correct my problem then refer patients who have had braces. I won't do this unless I heal myself first. So help me help others by making an extra small device for us smaller folks or tell us where to get a smaller device please.
Joy, it can feel "too big" at first. I stuck with it and now it feels just fine. I think I am wearing it upside down (!) but EGK said that is not a problem. It does not fit at all the other way. I cannot close my lips when wearing it, but I didn't expect to. There was a little rubbing on the gums which took about a month to settle, but it did and there is no problem at all now. I still have an overbite, but it has improved along with the health of my teeth, and health overall.
There is something like carbon paper dentists use to ensure a filling is not high enough to interfere with the bite. EGK, would that help you determine which size is needed in some cases? Customers could obtain the paper from their dentist, (or you - or online?); make a 'bite transfer' and send it to you if they are unsure what size to order?
Each size is over $5k in mold costs and 2-3 months... and we're a bootstrapped business with me as the only true 'employee'.
So we need to stay relatively cautious on investments we make.
We're looking at creating a kid's sized r2 that will be even smaller than r1 small. But first waiting to get more feedback that folks are happy with all the other design aspects of r2.
Sounds like we need to raise some money for you! Go fund me or some investors? If your theory is correct, who wouldn’t want to invest in your company? I would. I’m not the only one I’m sure.
Joy, your attitude is showing clearly that you are in desperate need of wearing a Reviv. The sarcasm you continue to indulge in makes me embarrassed for you.
Personal story: the Large Reviv 1 was miles too large for my mouth, and caused raw spots on my gums. I pushed through with Ken's support (yes, true support), and after enduring almost 4 months of pain, I no longer notice any rubbing or soreness. I'd wear it each night as long as I could, and then try keeping it in when reading, being on my computer or phone, or exercising. I believe I actually did myself a favor by not babying myself with a smaller or self-modified Reviv, and that my palate is actually widening, as I hoped/anticipated.
I encourage you to practice patience and perseverance, and try not to give way to being upset that everything isn't tailored just for you.
No need to be embarrassed for me. I wasn’t being sacrastic. I meant what I said. Humans come in different sizes with different needs. Glad it worked out for you.
Loved this. I share your passion for this issue— trying to fix my own problem created by braces and extractions. Do you think this device works to grow your pallet / bring forward growth? Wrote a related article: https://open.substack.com/pub/thisnotthat0/p/beyond-the-standard-of-care-how-breathing?r=fa2wl&utm_medium=ios
good article!
by 'this appliance' you are referring to Reviv right? Yes i think any appliance (eg. mouthguard) that puts space between teeth without locking a bite will over time grow your palate and bring 'forward growth' (which I prefer to call inflating the skull).
I'd love to be able to correct my biomechanics and bought one of your devices. It's too big though and no response about what to do. I want a smaller device, correct my problem then refer patients who have had braces. I won't do this unless I heal myself first. So help me help others by making an extra small device for us smaller folks or tell us where to get a smaller device please.
Thank you.
That's what I will be doing, even taking walks during the day even though I'll look like a goofball.
Hi Joy,
Where did you write to us? As i get lots of inbound messages on many channels and dont think ive seen your message yet.
Our r1 small is very small. Have you looked into that? https://getreviv.com/products/reviv-one-without-support?variant=46036569293041
If possible please try to send us an email on cs@getreviv.com
Joy, it can feel "too big" at first. I stuck with it and now it feels just fine. I think I am wearing it upside down (!) but EGK said that is not a problem. It does not fit at all the other way. I cannot close my lips when wearing it, but I didn't expect to. There was a little rubbing on the gums which took about a month to settle, but it did and there is no problem at all now. I still have an overbite, but it has improved along with the health of my teeth, and health overall.
There is something like carbon paper dentists use to ensure a filling is not high enough to interfere with the bite. EGK, would that help you determine which size is needed in some cases? Customers could obtain the paper from their dentist, (or you - or online?); make a 'bite transfer' and send it to you if they are unsure what size to order?
Yes, I bought the smallest one available.
Make one to fit us smaller humans if you are truly on a mission to help humanity.
Help me help you.
Each size is over $5k in mold costs and 2-3 months... and we're a bootstrapped business with me as the only true 'employee'.
So we need to stay relatively cautious on investments we make.
We're looking at creating a kid's sized r2 that will be even smaller than r1 small. But first waiting to get more feedback that folks are happy with all the other design aspects of r2.
Sounds like we need to raise some money for you! Go fund me or some investors? If your theory is correct, who wouldn’t want to invest in your company? I would. I’m not the only one I’m sure.
January 15, 2025, I sent a message to Ken Lever. Just resent it. Reviv1 small plus support (yeah right) $100
Joy, your attitude is showing clearly that you are in desperate need of wearing a Reviv. The sarcasm you continue to indulge in makes me embarrassed for you.
Personal story: the Large Reviv 1 was miles too large for my mouth, and caused raw spots on my gums. I pushed through with Ken's support (yes, true support), and after enduring almost 4 months of pain, I no longer notice any rubbing or soreness. I'd wear it each night as long as I could, and then try keeping it in when reading, being on my computer or phone, or exercising. I believe I actually did myself a favor by not babying myself with a smaller or self-modified Reviv, and that my palate is actually widening, as I hoped/anticipated.
I encourage you to practice patience and perseverance, and try not to give way to being upset that everything isn't tailored just for you.
Best wishes.
Bonnie,
No need to be embarrassed for me. I wasn’t being sacrastic. I meant what I said. Humans come in different sizes with different needs. Glad it worked out for you.
I just responded.
We missed that earlier email. I apologized.
There is a customer support girl that also works on some emails in that inbox as we use it for many things. So either she or i cleared it by accident.
As we keep the inbox empty so someone accidentally cleared it without responding. Which is not something i usually do.
Dang it won't stay in my mouth when I sleep it's so big. Maybe I can use sleep tape.
mouthtape or chinstrap...
wear in small increments during the day as often as u can to stretch things faster.. will make it easier at night