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Cheryl Hall's avatar

I’ve been wearing the reviv 2 for 3 months now and my bite has also unlocked and teeth no longer touch when I don’t have the mouthguard in. I have to tape my mouth to make sure I keep my lips together at night but once I started doing that I noticed the fascia peeling. Sometimes I wake up with some lines around my lips and around by my chin which I take as a positive sign. I haven’t done any of the exercises but I do try to wear the mouthguard for a couple of hours in the day when I can. I was someone who experienced bad headaches and head pressure for over twenty years and had a very tight skull (I could hardly move the skin on top of my head) but since wearing the mouthguard I’ve noticed a huge reduction in the frequency of headaches and head pressure that I would feel. I’m also starting to notice less inflammation in my body, I used to get puffy calves and ankles, and I’ve felt a reduction in that. I have received cranial sacral work a few times a month which I think is supporting the changes but I have to say I’m so grateful for reviv, I really think it’s making a significant positive change for me.

EGK's avatar

thank you for sharing that Cheryl!

Junnies's avatar

you can experiment with heat as well. off chatgpt's suggestion, i thought about using heat on my tight neck/ occiput and finally figured out to fill a solid plastic water bottle with hot water. by rolling/ wrapping up the heated bottle with an old cotton t shirt, the cotton diffuse the heat nicely, insulates the heat, provides a soft and smooth surface to lean my head on, and you can simply unwrap the bottle one layer at a time as the outer layers gradually lose heat. i could feel the tightness unlocking, melting, relaxing, and even tried shifting the heat across my skull and body

Cheryl Hall's avatar

Thank you for the suggestion Junnies. I will definitely try that as there are still times when the back of my neck is very cold, so I there is still some obstruction to blood flow.

Lynda H's avatar

I find now, after wearing the Reviv mouthguard (the blue one) for over 10 months, that while my lips are closed, my teeth are apart. There is no clenched tight jaw that I used to have during the day, and I no longer snore at night. I am so pleased I "gave it a try"! But I need to purchase another soon, as it is starting to look a bit ratty.

EGK's avatar

yes.. time flies!! it's almost a year already!

Jennifer's avatar

I've been wearing the R3 for about a month and my bite is unlocked to the point where my teeth don't even touch when I don't have the mouth guard in--and if I try to make contact, the only comfortable contact is between just one incisor on top and one on bottom (very minimal contact). I took my mouth guard out just now and tried to swallow and I was able to successfully without my teeth touching at all. So, at rest and without the mouth guard, I naturally have height from my unlocked bite. In theory, then, I don't even need to wear the mouth guard at all now (at least while awake) and my fascia is stretching. BTW I'm not mouth breathing at all, my lips are completely closed, my tongue is on the roof of my mouth, and I'm breathing through my nose.

EGK's avatar

you should still either wear it a bit during the day or do some stretching

i do stretching and so i wear nothing during the day

Emma's avatar

What about mouth breathers. Their jaw is open and teeth are rarely coming together. Will allowing the jaw to stay open slightly allow for the balloon effect?

EGK's avatar

yes i agree with what Andrej said. Plus the avg person swallows ~1000x a day and its very hard to swallow without closing your mouth.

Everytime they close they are reinforcing a locked bite

Andrej Milojeski's avatar

But their occlusion is still locked when they're biting and eating, so that will keep the cranial bones from expanding.

Jennifer's avatar

But you still have to take a mouth guard out to eat, so even Reviv wearers will have to lock their bites when eating.

EGK's avatar

yes but after some months most people's bite will be permanently unlocked and so chewing is fine at that point

Christina Sophia's avatar

Excellent article! I appreciate learning about this so much and have great hopes, some expectation now, that my bottom teeth can get more room and move into better position, & my receded gums can greatly improve by using the mouth guards. That's very exciting! 😀

Bobby's avatar

This is great information thanks for sharing 👍

Dan's avatar
10hEdited

Ken, should I do SMILE eye surgery or no?

EGK's avatar

i did lasik when i was in my early 20's and it only lasted like a decade. I wish now i hadnt done.

My general advice is dont underestimate how smart the body is and its ability to heal itself when given the right biomechancis

Dan's avatar

Words of wisdom. It’s the rush to want to fix everything. I never shoulda done any of the surgeries I did. I wish I found Reviv sooner. I should stop and wait and just keep doing what I been doing. The jaw surgery wrecked me. Now I’m waiting to get it scheduled to have some removed. The surgeon is unwilling to take it all out. The lower metal is near a major nerve. These endless years of waiting while I endure have ground me down. Getting eyesight fixed could feel amazing. But it’s over 5 grand and I’m what iffing it like crazy. So much disconnected thinking in medical land. I shouldn’t do it. Glasses aren’t so bad and I really regret these other operations. If anything, I should get my nose fixed. They carved a perfect nose into this wonky fucking thing. The jaw surgery did aesthetically make me look a little better. No consideration or understanding of the underlying issues. The surgeon is such a conceited prick. I’m writing this after years of working with Mr. Knows Best. His approach is conservative in his opinion and I’m nuts for what I’ve been explaining to this clown. I never shoulda done it. I really was suffocating and yeah this did open my airway a little. But the trade off has been excruciating. I’ll never get full Reviv benefits cause of what he cut apart and bolted together, I don’t think. Still doesn’t acknowledge how orthodontic extractions and braces cause all this. Thinks I need a shrink and drugs. I think after he takes the metal out that he’s willing to take out I’m going to ask him to hold it up his ass for two years while performing an ice ballet on the fucking Arctic. It’s gotta be by design. They wrecked me with pulled teeth and braces. Insurance made a bundle on the jaw surgery. The “special”ized approach sent me to surgery I didn’t need. And none of these dumb motherfuckers even understand posture, footwear, nutrition, or soft tissue. If they could see soft tissue in a scan it would then exist. These people’s kids probably don’t exist to them until they get they get the birth certificate. Paper pusher brains. They passed some tests. They learned some tricks. Woopty fucking do. I’m gonna get the hat and shirt soon to wear to my appointments. I always show them the mouthguard. Still broke. Still on SSDI. I’m doing what I can. Dan is sad and mad and hurt. If Ken sends Dan some merch, it would help. Hey! Did you read the Second tooth fairy?? Dude you could sell it through the website! I could do more. And Bad Bite. Fuck man. I just want to write my fiction. Working on Bad Bite is a nightmare. I can’t look at old pictures of myself of be reflective on it too much. It’s emotional heavy lifting. But it’s coming along. In a week or two I can send you a draft. I just need to edit it down cause it’s over 200 pages and it’s a mess. Bad Bite equals the bullshit. Good Bite equals Reviv. “Guard the Mouth”You could put that on a tee shirt. That’d be perfect for selling mouthguards! Kinda like Protect this House! Guard the Mouth with a Reviv Mouthguard! On guard Ken! Always on guard!

Marinna's avatar

Does this help you keep your tongue at the roof of your mouth at night?

EGK's avatar

Our mouthguards have a tongue tab that encourage the tongue to push into it and stretch. In our experience tongue posture improves over time as the palate expands and the tongue has more room to sit correctly.

Here is a related article: https://reviv.substack.com/p/my-official-take-on-tongue-posture

We recommend learning more in our community. To join just make a request here: https://www.skool.com/reviv-2885/about

Melissa Archer LMT's avatar

My bite no longer aligns due to a missing tooth never caused me an issue that I knew of until this last year

I had Botox for jaw pain and headaches was told the start of TMJ TMD, my jaw popped open under that influence being too relaxed on accident during a massage pt appt for my jaw my tissues are now over stretched and I have too much movement where 10 degrees of movement side to side or open has expanded to 14 in all directions I was told I may be hypermobile will this help me to relax the muscles at the jaw points I have tried upper lower and both types of guards and they cause me more pain and discomfort

My back teeth touch but have an open bite on the front now more than I did before horrible neck and shoulder pain headaches and muscle trigger points in my cheeks now huge lumps

With this stop the TMJ TMD

Dysfunction and help everything else

EGK's avatar

I view that there is a good chance this process will help with the TMJ/TMD, jaw pain, headaches and neck and shoulder pain over time as the soft tissue stretches and things decompress and remodel naturally.

That said your situation sounds quite complex given the hypermobility and the overstretched tissue from the Botox incident. I would recommend starting very slowly — even just a few minutes at a time — and being very gentle with the process rather than pushing through any pain.

I would recommend posting about your specific situation in our community as others may have experience with hypermobility and TMJ dysfunction alongside this process.

Here are some related articles:

https://reviv.substack.com/p/i-am-confident-this-solves-most-tmj

https://reviv.substack.com/p/tmj-is-a-function-of-your-deflating

To join our community just make a request here: https://www.skool.com/reviv-2885/about

Tiffany Overby's avatar

I'm wondering about you including palate expansion in your list. I'm 37 with a traumatic deep bite that is wearing down my front teeth, and who has never had orthodontic work. I was told a few years ago by a dentist that my palate is the size of the average 6 year old. Since then I've been looking into palate expansion, thinking it may be a solution for me in the future and a preventative measure for my children who seem to be developing with narrow palates as well. What is the problem you see with expansion, if a good occlusion is formed in the end? And can reviv help someone like me get the space I need in my palate? I've been told I need a minimum of 10mm of additional width in my palate for my tongue to have enough space. Is it possible to get this width from a flat mouth guard?