I have had neurological issues ever since my muscles shifted due to an ear infection that affected my balance. My last girlfriend who was a PT noticed I had issues with my temporalis muscles beforehand. With my temples being so knotted and strained that it kept the whole rest of my body in balance.
That shift happened and I went from playing chess at a master level, to a beginner because of brain fog, started having "somatic seizures" my eyes misaligned, I had migraines that lasted days on end with little breaks in-between. My balance was so bad I couldn't walk... I was bed bound. It was terrible. I have done tons of things to reach the point of almost better. I came to the conclusion myself that I needed to stick something in-between my back teeth and get something to stretch out. Couldn't ever find the right thing or way to do it. This is so vindicating to see after telling 20+ docs.
Perhaps this is another reason for the yawning instinct; to keep the soft tissues stretched out. But I just don't see how fascia squeezing the bones of the skull could actually put any pressure on the brain to damage it. Give a tension headache for sure, but there is still the subdural space and regulation of intracranial pressure to protect the brain. Maybe it has more to do with squeezing the cranial nerves coming out of the spine.
I just know that the volume of the skull increases when you improve and decreases when you get worse.
And that when you get worse cranial bones derange...and then come back into symmetry as you improve.
Note that I am careful to just be vague and say 'soft tissue' and not 'fascia' because i do not know exactly what it is and whether it is the fascia or something else.
Fascia don't squeeze anything. They get squeezed/relax depending on muscle tone. And there are only really the Temporalis Fascias left and right. Most of its area cannot even be squeezed, as no muscle tissue is outside of it.
The cranial nerves don't come out of the spine, but directly from the brainstem. The spinal nerves are connected to the brainstem via the medulla oblongata. The cranial nerves come directly from the brainstem. Olfactory and Optics come from the cerebrum.
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But yeah, good points. Cranial nerves being affected is a lot more plausible than the brain, which has loads of self-regulation mechanisms.
Note that I refer to it as 'soft tissue' as I'm not really sure what all is changing.
But what i am very confident of is that the skull inflates and deflates based on these biomechanics.
And when they deflate they derange the cranial bones and cognitive and neurological function decline. And when it inflates things start to come back.
I've done that to myself a few times over the years and have seen it happen on many others.
I like to point out that... i approach this more like a startup and with first principles logic. And i have found it more useful to separate myself a bit from the details of the anatomy.
Because i've generally found that i can operate from the level of 'do x and y happens each time.' And the details of what happens as 'y' occurs.. i leave to the medical professionals when one day they begin understanding these biomechanics better.
I recommend giving anatomy a shot again. Knowing how muscles work, where they insert/originate and to what specific bone, what the various tissue types are is very rewarding. If you studied this with a textbook and flat illustrations, it's very confusing. But ChatGPT is a text book, that you can tell exactly what confuses you, ask it speculative questions and get an instant plausibility check or confirmation.
And with 3d models that you can intuitively touch-manipulate on your phone, like "Human Anatomy Atlas". 10 to 15 minutes every day (or some obsessive afternoons spent), you'll be able to picture this in detail in your head after a month or so.
Then you can use that knowledge to target specific muscles for stretching/tensing. Understanding theory leads to new experiments, and helps you understand better what might actually be going on at the "backend" so to speak.
I think if you went thru this process you'd understand why i disagree.
I do some jaw stretches that ive come up with for a couple hrs per day. The skin of my face and scalp rips on a daily basis as the skull 'expands'. (note volume of skull has increased significantly in last few yrs). Also, skin from my scalp 'rains down'.
This happens daily for over 1.5 yrs. Facial symmetry is improving as i do it.
Plus muscles in various parts of my body release sometimes. Often this release is painful as if the muscle was in spasm for years before hand. This can be in parts of my back, arms, legs, etc.
As this occurs I often have lines on various parts of my body that are clearly not from just laying down etc. As if things are moving around under the skin.
And the body, my limbs all start to remodel.
And note that i've done all this 'till the end' at least once before. And will show u guys what it looks like before & after when im 'done' this time. Hopefully in a few months.
I can study anatomy for hundreds of hours and i guarantee it wont explain this process.
While studying anatomy is undoubtedly valuable, it must be approached with a crucial understanding that anatomical knowledge without appreciation for the body's interconnected nature can actually lead to misguided conclusions.
While the field effectively maps visible structures, it fails to capture the dynamic, living nature of fascia. This tissue system, perhaps our most important yet least understood organ, holds the key to understanding many human diseases.
However, its properties remain elusive precisely because they can't be properly studied in cadavers, where the living, dynamic qualities of fascia are lost.
Moreover, the intimate connection between fascia and muscle represents a unified system that defies the reductionist approach of modern science.
The tendency to separate and categorize these elements as distinct structures, rather than understanding their integrated function, exemplifies how modern scientific methodology, driven by reductionist thinking, has led to significant blind spots in our understanding of human health and disease.
I was seeing some very good osteopaths back in 2017-18 when i went down the whole ALF rabbit hole.
THey'd work on my body and try to 'improve CSF' as they liked to say.
Did very little on its own.
I think the key is in understanding the soft tissue of the body inflates/deflates like a balloon. And u just need to inflate it with some simple rules.
The fact that the couple of 'good' osteos i saw were themselves falling apart is a reflection in my view that they still just dont get it.
My health has terribly declined after going to an Endodontist and having them scrape out an abscess above two root canals on # 7&8, but leaving the root canal teeth. I basically started having insomnia and extreme malaise, and I developed reoccurring subacute thyroiditis, which has now turned into hyperthyroidism.. I’ve seen a Biological Dentist who wants to remove the root canals and clean them out properly and replace them with a bridge. I’ve suspected steath hidden infection and have had elevated eosinophils and basophils, terrible allergies plague me all Spring long … just wondering if anyone has had anything similar and can help here
I was coming to a similar theory myself after developing a lot of muscle tension and later pain in my face. I had a chipped molar and had been avoiding eating on that side for a few years which caused a muscle imbalance.
I started envisioning a similar product when yours was advertised to me.
Couldn't really use it until after getting that tooth fixed, but after I did this seems to be helping me recover a lot faster than waiting for the imbalance to correct itself. And I haven't started wearing it overnight yet, just an hour or two a day
Wow! I’ve suffered from a neurological condition that drastically affects the muscles around my eyes. Started in 2020 at the beginning of the pandemic and went undiagnosed for three years. It’s a rare disorder called blepharospasm which is basically focal dystonia. Additionally I suffer from cervical dystonia which has led to severe chronic neck pain and loss of range of motion. I’m a certified yoga instructor and reiki healer. I’ve gotten great results with energy work but it hasn’t been sustainable. Naturally, the neurologist say that there is no known cause or cure in western medicine. They only treat the symptoms and are not interested in finding a solution for healing. Medical Botox is the only treatment every 3 mos. Even that a majority of the people in my Support group report that they only get 5 to 8 good weeks of relief, if that. I have been intrigued that I’ve been unable to yawn. I know it’s the bodies natural way to detox, so it’s been frustrating.
Feeling hopeful when I started reading people’s issues here. Currently I’m doing a heavy metal detox which has been known to cause neurological problems and tremors. While a lot of issues are layered problems in the body, chronic stress and trauma, I’m not sold this is my cure. My health coach friend also thought it could be Lyme disease bc it creates a stiff neck and pain. I’m definitely a grinder, wear a night guard and unfortunately have ground down my beautiful teeth my parents paid lots of money for orthodontics. I’ve always felt it would be nice to get my teeth back, along w/ my youthful looks. For now though, I’m more interested in solving the neurological issues I suffer from. Dry eye is the most common misdiagnosis bc it’s the most obvious symptom, and photophobia, extreme light sensitivity. I’ve had to wear glasses full time now bc of relief polarized lenses offer. Now fully reliant. Ugh, I would love to reverse all this.
I recommend checking out our community and asking there as there are many folks doing the process and posting about it there. To join just make a request here https://www.skool.com/reviv-2885/about
Same it definitely causes neurological disorders . I has taken away my ability to talk properly . Speak my mind . I go blank while thinking sometimes . Mewing ruined me
Sorry to post this here but I couldn't find another way to contact you.I have not received my order #7067, supposedly shipped in late June. I had been using the earlier Reviv and was noticing some results, but the device was wearing down so I decided to upgrade. Is there a customer service rep I can communicate with?
"So if you were to grind this person’s upper and lower teeth by say 1-2mm each, what would happen?"
My guess is, that the gap between the teeth in the resting state would increase by 2-4 mm. Unless you wanted to posit, that some instinct would keep the normal gap constant, thereby raising the mandible.
One way that could happen, is that the extra distance that your teeth need to travel for chewing, means that the little bit of extra work that your Masseter, Temporalis and Pterygoid have to do, permanently increases their muscle tone. I doubt that, though.
When i fully release this tissue in the chin area to the edges of the jaw i will have a pretty much perfect skeleton and skull. That is what happened last time and im very confident the same will happen again because i see it happening little by little for a long time now.
And i literally believe the same rule holds true of any human being.
Also note that it is not 'just' the skin in this chin area that is releasing. My face, scalp and towards the end the skin on various parts of my body also rips up like a bad sunburn.
Which is what led me to this conclusion that this 'soft tissue' covering the body is holding everything out of place like a wetsuit that is crushing your body.
Everything that has happened to me this past ~10 yrs leads to this logical conclusion in my view.
Wow. Just wow. Thanks for defining. Now, what exactly is the Curve of Spee? And what does one need to do besides wear mouth guards to get to being "done"?
I do some exercises that I think stretches my jaw but not for the amount of time you do. They're just facial exercises but I'd like to see what you are doing, learn that. Do you demonstrate that somewhere?
Oh and one more question: what is the specific negative effect(s) of removing the wisdom teeth over time? And how do we fix or reverse those? Thank you!
To get to done you need to use mouthguard + stretching (eg. my 'fast method' on skool, thumbpulling, yoga, etc.)
Removing wisdom teeth (or any teeth) wil expedite the collapse of the mouth (and thus the entire skull/skeleton) over time. To reverse u need to do this process.
I view things extremely simple.
A human is always either inflating or deflating.
Inflating fixes everything over enough time. You have no true influence over what the body fixes next. The body decides.
Beautiful, thank you for that quick answer! I just listened to your interview on Nutrition Detective - that was great. I hope you'll come back. I'm another one who heard about Reviv from Dr Smith. 🙂
If you were to drill a person's upper and lower teeth such that you flattened their curve of spee.. you will see that person physically and neurologically decline pretty fast.
It happened to me, my friend marcello (who went from running marathons with a great body to wheelchair + cervical dystonia within 6 months), and at least 3-4 others that i've known over the years.
Unfortunately it's not a study that would be ethical to carry out.
Hey, I came across this interesting article that I’m not sure if you’ve seen, but it might be related to skull deformation. Honestly, I don’t really get it, but I thought I’d send it your way to see what you think!
Your Teeth Are Sweating
An Essay on the Dentinal Fluid Transport System That Dentistry Forgot
I have had neurological issues ever since my muscles shifted due to an ear infection that affected my balance. My last girlfriend who was a PT noticed I had issues with my temporalis muscles beforehand. With my temples being so knotted and strained that it kept the whole rest of my body in balance.
That shift happened and I went from playing chess at a master level, to a beginner because of brain fog, started having "somatic seizures" my eyes misaligned, I had migraines that lasted days on end with little breaks in-between. My balance was so bad I couldn't walk... I was bed bound. It was terrible. I have done tons of things to reach the point of almost better. I came to the conclusion myself that I needed to stick something in-between my back teeth and get something to stretch out. Couldn't ever find the right thing or way to do it. This is so vindicating to see after telling 20+ docs.
wow.. that is a very bad case.
And great intuition on concluding u needed to put something b/w the back teeth!
Did anything happen to your teeth in the years before all this happened? Any ortho or extractions?
Oh boy I can add a lot to this conversation. I have had an interesting experience with dentists. And working with body/health/wellness for 20 years.
I believe it!
Perhaps this is another reason for the yawning instinct; to keep the soft tissues stretched out. But I just don't see how fascia squeezing the bones of the skull could actually put any pressure on the brain to damage it. Give a tension headache for sure, but there is still the subdural space and regulation of intracranial pressure to protect the brain. Maybe it has more to do with squeezing the cranial nerves coming out of the spine.
For me this mechanism is a bit of a black box.
I just know that the volume of the skull increases when you improve and decreases when you get worse.
And that when you get worse cranial bones derange...and then come back into symmetry as you improve.
Note that I am careful to just be vague and say 'soft tissue' and not 'fascia' because i do not know exactly what it is and whether it is the fascia or something else.
Obligatory nitpicking:
Fascia don't squeeze anything. They get squeezed/relax depending on muscle tone. And there are only really the Temporalis Fascias left and right. Most of its area cannot even be squeezed, as no muscle tissue is outside of it.
The cranial nerves don't come out of the spine, but directly from the brainstem. The spinal nerves are connected to the brainstem via the medulla oblongata. The cranial nerves come directly from the brainstem. Olfactory and Optics come from the cerebrum.
---
But yeah, good points. Cranial nerves being affected is a lot more plausible than the brain, which has loads of self-regulation mechanisms.
Note that I refer to it as 'soft tissue' as I'm not really sure what all is changing.
But what i am very confident of is that the skull inflates and deflates based on these biomechanics.
And when they deflate they derange the cranial bones and cognitive and neurological function decline. And when it inflates things start to come back.
I've done that to myself a few times over the years and have seen it happen on many others.
I like to point out that... i approach this more like a startup and with first principles logic. And i have found it more useful to separate myself a bit from the details of the anatomy.
Because i've generally found that i can operate from the level of 'do x and y happens each time.' And the details of what happens as 'y' occurs.. i leave to the medical professionals when one day they begin understanding these biomechanics better.
I recommend giving anatomy a shot again. Knowing how muscles work, where they insert/originate and to what specific bone, what the various tissue types are is very rewarding. If you studied this with a textbook and flat illustrations, it's very confusing. But ChatGPT is a text book, that you can tell exactly what confuses you, ask it speculative questions and get an instant plausibility check or confirmation.
And with 3d models that you can intuitively touch-manipulate on your phone, like "Human Anatomy Atlas". 10 to 15 minutes every day (or some obsessive afternoons spent), you'll be able to picture this in detail in your head after a month or so.
Then you can use that knowledge to target specific muscles for stretching/tensing. Understanding theory leads to new experiments, and helps you understand better what might actually be going on at the "backend" so to speak.
I think if you went thru this process you'd understand why i disagree.
I do some jaw stretches that ive come up with for a couple hrs per day. The skin of my face and scalp rips on a daily basis as the skull 'expands'. (note volume of skull has increased significantly in last few yrs). Also, skin from my scalp 'rains down'.
This happens daily for over 1.5 yrs. Facial symmetry is improving as i do it.
Plus muscles in various parts of my body release sometimes. Often this release is painful as if the muscle was in spasm for years before hand. This can be in parts of my back, arms, legs, etc.
As this occurs I often have lines on various parts of my body that are clearly not from just laying down etc. As if things are moving around under the skin.
And the body, my limbs all start to remodel.
And note that i've done all this 'till the end' at least once before. And will show u guys what it looks like before & after when im 'done' this time. Hopefully in a few months.
I can study anatomy for hundreds of hours and i guarantee it wont explain this process.
While studying anatomy is undoubtedly valuable, it must be approached with a crucial understanding that anatomical knowledge without appreciation for the body's interconnected nature can actually lead to misguided conclusions.
While the field effectively maps visible structures, it fails to capture the dynamic, living nature of fascia. This tissue system, perhaps our most important yet least understood organ, holds the key to understanding many human diseases.
However, its properties remain elusive precisely because they can't be properly studied in cadavers, where the living, dynamic qualities of fascia are lost.
Moreover, the intimate connection between fascia and muscle represents a unified system that defies the reductionist approach of modern science.
The tendency to separate and categorize these elements as distinct structures, rather than understanding their integrated function, exemplifies how modern scientific methodology, driven by reductionist thinking, has led to significant blind spots in our understanding of human health and disease.
The fascia probably affects the position of the cranial bones and these probably affect CSF flow. The key is CSF imho.
I view CSF downstream.
I was seeing some very good osteopaths back in 2017-18 when i went down the whole ALF rabbit hole.
THey'd work on my body and try to 'improve CSF' as they liked to say.
Did very little on its own.
I think the key is in understanding the soft tissue of the body inflates/deflates like a balloon. And u just need to inflate it with some simple rules.
The fact that the couple of 'good' osteos i saw were themselves falling apart is a reflection in my view that they still just dont get it.
My health has terribly declined after going to an Endodontist and having them scrape out an abscess above two root canals on # 7&8, but leaving the root canal teeth. I basically started having insomnia and extreme malaise, and I developed reoccurring subacute thyroiditis, which has now turned into hyperthyroidism.. I’ve seen a Biological Dentist who wants to remove the root canals and clean them out properly and replace them with a bridge. I’ve suspected steath hidden infection and have had elevated eosinophils and basophils, terrible allergies plague me all Spring long … just wondering if anyone has had anything similar and can help here
That is so interesting, yet not a lot of people are talking about it
that video is wild
I was coming to a similar theory myself after developing a lot of muscle tension and later pain in my face. I had a chipped molar and had been avoiding eating on that side for a few years which caused a muscle imbalance.
I started envisioning a similar product when yours was advertised to me.
Couldn't really use it until after getting that tooth fixed, but after I did this seems to be helping me recover a lot faster than waiting for the imbalance to correct itself. And I haven't started wearing it overnight yet, just an hour or two a day
nice.. keep wearing it more!
This reminds me of “Mewing”. Any connection?
I know of the Mews since early 2015.
And did some Mewing in 2015-16.
I wrote a post on my differences with the Mews here: https://reviv.substack.com/p/my-take-on-the-mews?utm_source=publication-search
Wow! I’ve suffered from a neurological condition that drastically affects the muscles around my eyes. Started in 2020 at the beginning of the pandemic and went undiagnosed for three years. It’s a rare disorder called blepharospasm which is basically focal dystonia. Additionally I suffer from cervical dystonia which has led to severe chronic neck pain and loss of range of motion. I’m a certified yoga instructor and reiki healer. I’ve gotten great results with energy work but it hasn’t been sustainable. Naturally, the neurologist say that there is no known cause or cure in western medicine. They only treat the symptoms and are not interested in finding a solution for healing. Medical Botox is the only treatment every 3 mos. Even that a majority of the people in my Support group report that they only get 5 to 8 good weeks of relief, if that. I have been intrigued that I’ve been unable to yawn. I know it’s the bodies natural way to detox, so it’s been frustrating.
Feeling hopeful when I started reading people’s issues here. Currently I’m doing a heavy metal detox which has been known to cause neurological problems and tremors. While a lot of issues are layered problems in the body, chronic stress and trauma, I’m not sold this is my cure. My health coach friend also thought it could be Lyme disease bc it creates a stiff neck and pain. I’m definitely a grinder, wear a night guard and unfortunately have ground down my beautiful teeth my parents paid lots of money for orthodontics. I’ve always felt it would be nice to get my teeth back, along w/ my youthful looks. For now though, I’m more interested in solving the neurological issues I suffer from. Dry eye is the most common misdiagnosis bc it’s the most obvious symptom, and photophobia, extreme light sensitivity. I’ve had to wear glasses full time now bc of relief polarized lenses offer. Now fully reliant. Ugh, I would love to reverse all this.
Has anyone heard of this? Desperate for answers.
I recommend checking out our community and asking there as there are many folks doing the process and posting about it there. To join just make a request here https://www.skool.com/reviv-2885/about
Same it definitely causes neurological disorders . I has taken away my ability to talk properly . Speak my mind . I go blank while thinking sometimes . Mewing ruined me
Sorry to post this here but I couldn't find another way to contact you.I have not received my order #7067, supposedly shipped in late June. I had been using the earlier Reviv and was noticing some results, but the device was wearing down so I decided to upgrade. Is there a customer service rep I can communicate with?
oh yes sorry about that.. please write to us at cs@getreviv.com
I just checked on your order status and it was considered delivered with this tracking https://www.yuntrack.com/parcelTracking?id=YT2517900704627390
Nobody else in the house could have picked it up right?
In any case just confirm on the email to us that you didnt get it and we'll send another.
"So if you were to grind this person’s upper and lower teeth by say 1-2mm each, what would happen?"
My guess is, that the gap between the teeth in the resting state would increase by 2-4 mm. Unless you wanted to posit, that some instinct would keep the normal gap constant, thereby raising the mandible.
One way that could happen, is that the extra distance that your teeth need to travel for chewing, means that the little bit of extra work that your Masseter, Temporalis and Pterygoid have to do, permanently increases their muscle tone. I doubt that, though.
one other thing id add is this point that for me there is a clear definition of done.
its not just that im doing these exercises and hoping that i look great one day.
Rather this part right here is the indicator that i used years ago when i did it the first time: https://share.cleanshot.com/l2pYCbrG
When i fully release this tissue in the chin area to the edges of the jaw i will have a pretty much perfect skeleton and skull. That is what happened last time and im very confident the same will happen again because i see it happening little by little for a long time now.
And i literally believe the same rule holds true of any human being.
Also note that it is not 'just' the skin in this chin area that is releasing. My face, scalp and towards the end the skin on various parts of my body also rips up like a bad sunburn.
Which is what led me to this conclusion that this 'soft tissue' covering the body is holding everything out of place like a wetsuit that is crushing your body.
Everything that has happened to me this past ~10 yrs leads to this logical conclusion in my view.
Wow. Just wow. Thanks for defining. Now, what exactly is the Curve of Spee? And what does one need to do besides wear mouth guards to get to being "done"?
I do some exercises that I think stretches my jaw but not for the amount of time you do. They're just facial exercises but I'd like to see what you are doing, learn that. Do you demonstrate that somewhere?
Oh and one more question: what is the specific negative effect(s) of removing the wisdom teeth over time? And how do we fix or reverse those? Thank you!
this is curve of spee https://reviv.substack.com/p/the-curve-of-spee
To get to done you need to use mouthguard + stretching (eg. my 'fast method' on skool, thumbpulling, yoga, etc.)
Removing wisdom teeth (or any teeth) wil expedite the collapse of the mouth (and thus the entire skull/skeleton) over time. To reverse u need to do this process.
I view things extremely simple.
A human is always either inflating or deflating.
Inflating fixes everything over enough time. You have no true influence over what the body fixes next. The body decides.
The only thing u have any control on is speed.
Beautiful, thank you for that quick answer! I just listened to your interview on Nutrition Detective - that was great. I hope you'll come back. I'm another one who heard about Reviv from Dr Smith. 🙂
If you were to drill a person's upper and lower teeth such that you flattened their curve of spee.. you will see that person physically and neurologically decline pretty fast.
It happened to me, my friend marcello (who went from running marathons with a great body to wheelchair + cervical dystonia within 6 months), and at least 3-4 others that i've known over the years.
Unfortunately it's not a study that would be ethical to carry out.
Hey, I came across this interesting article that I’m not sure if you’ve seen, but it might be related to skull deformation. Honestly, I don’t really get it, but I thought I’d send it your way to see what you think!
Your Teeth Are Sweating
An Essay on the Dentinal Fluid Transport System That Dentistry Forgot
https://unbekoming.substack.com/p/your-teeth-are-sweating?utm_source=%2Finbox&utm_medium=reader2