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Sand's avatar

HAHAHAH. I agree. Even me as someone who promoted thumbpulling, I always looked to increase dental height, prescribed stretches, concoctions of different things all just to keep the bite from locking again and retaining change, I was looking for something exactly like your appliance. It keeps change and is easy for the layman, not some 10 step daily plan to retain results. AND it can work on results, Bravo!

Manwell's avatar

Hi, Ken!

1. Please explain what do you mean under “intraoral pulling”? (Thumbpulling, face pulling that your friend Plato tried using face mask?)

2. Did you try @mewing.world interoral face pulling course to judge? It’s absolutely different from anything you can find online.

EGK's avatar

hi Manwell

1- i more refer to thumbpulling in the way most folks do it these days.

2- I haven't. But i dont view that i need to. THere is a cycle to how the body remodels, which is part of what i talk about with the 'fast method' i talk about in my community.

I do soft tissue stretches that build pressure in the skull/neck to the point where i'm tired or have a mild headache. Then i rest and the whole body/skull remodel a little, which is visible by lines on the body and face, redness where skin is stretching, skin rips/flakes off my scalp sometimes, etc.

And so for me speed is dictated by how much pressure u can build in what amount of time.

And quite honestly having done this stuff for 10+ yrs and feeling very well how it works on my body & skull.. i am very confident that whatever mewingworld does is not even in the same ballpark of speed of how fast i go.

Also there are some in my community that have gotten this down pretty well.. and they are giong much faster than what they were achieving with thumbpulling before.

I know folks will continue to believe whatever they want to believe.. but for me there is a clear definition of done and how to win the crown as being the 'king' of this shit.

And that is who gets rid of the 'crease' that i talk about in this article the fastest.https://reviv.substack.com/p/the-mystery-piece-of-the-puzzle-is?utm_source=publication-search

Joshua V's avatar

Hi Ken. Did you see Oscar Patel his transformation? The guy literally became a model by doing mewing, thumbpulling and diet. How do you explain this if you say the effects without mouthguard are negilible? If anyone not using a mouthguard is wrong, then how are all these kids like oscar transforming their faces? It can’t only be lighting

EGK's avatar

i had a cursory look at his YT and i didnt see many photos of him when he was younger. eg. 2-10 years ago.

But i bet it you his structure has not changed that much. Was just a slow, natural evolution and he probably always had a a good profile/neck/skull.

I used to have a number of model friends in moscow years back when i lived there. One girl was showing me pics of her when she was younger.

Some of them were far from flattering.

And yet now she looked amazing.

You will find that pattern with good looking people ALL OF THE TIME.

There is nothing special about Oscar in that.

Go find any model.. ask her to look at old pictures. And i guarantee you you'll prob see a similar thing as Oscar.

Certiorari's avatar

Does the Revive mouthguard contain synthetic materials? I think this is my main reservation. I try to avoid synthetic fabrics in my clothes, I buy food in glass jars, not cans and rarely plastic. I am hesitant to then expose myself to chemicals by sleeping with something synthetic in my mouth.

EGK's avatar

it is 100% food grade silicone. Many folks have voiced this concern before purchasing but to my knowledge to this point nobody has had any issues from this.

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Jan 23, 2025
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important to note that these facepulling photos above were pre-2014 and then he did starecta for some years.

He's disappeared for the last several years and I dont think anyone can find him. He dropped off Facebook etc

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Jan 24, 2025
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EGK's avatar

I would be cautious putting Plato's work on a pedestal. I don't think he understood the full picture and from what I understood earlier thru some rumors... i dont think he is doing too well right now.

Me, Marcello and Plato were communicating and exchanging ideas a fair bit back in 2016-17 on the old Starecta FB grup... and i think if you were to look at those old threads it would be clear that at that point Plato was taking a fair bit of influence from Marcello (who to this day i still think is one of the best minds in the history of this game).