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Reeza Mendoza's avatar

It's also important to consider that these athletes and top models most likely and generally ate the same things we did and they didn't have skeletal collapse. Unless their parents fed them carnivore or any special diet growing up.

Ivar123's avatar

Thats not certain. It can vary a lot. Some families avoid meat and stick to vegetables because they think that its the healthiest. Some families eat a lot of junk. Some families eat more meat. Some may have eggs for breakfast every day for their whole life while others may have bread and jam. It varies a lot.

Anyway, let's say that its not the diet that builds the skull. What else would it be that results in a skeletal collapse later in life?

EGK's avatar

re: What else would it be that results in a skeletal collapse later in life?

>> biomechanics. Grinding of teeth, loss of dental height and flattening of curve of spee. Which triggers collapse of skull and skeleton which leads to disease.

Ivar123's avatar

And what causes that? Is it just a bad habit that some people have (grinding of teeth) that some people have and others dont?

Why do some of us grind our teeth and nobody in the primitive tribes grind their teeth?

EGK's avatar

grinding teeth is an engineering problem in my view.

We have a complex jaw with complex movements. And its designed to come together in a few positions like retrusion, protrusion, etc.

Now u need to account for the fact that genetically it was designed to all work together perfectly IF everything developed to its correct size and shape. Which basically NEVER happens anymore (except primitive tribes come the closest)

And so it's like if you built a damaged car. It's gonna wear down faster.

Ivar123's avatar

Yeah that makes total sense. I can tell you that my crooked teeth didnt change one bit by doing carnivore. But Reviv helped me.

But for my newborn daughter. I fed her lots of meat (not necessarily chewy). And her teeth are way way ahead for her age.

I think the fat-soluble vitamin thesis in combo with your thesis (what you just commented about continuous biomechanical decline) explains everything.

Thanks for a great product 🙌

Ivar123's avatar

The first part of the article, you're saying "correlation is not causation" to the fact that ancestors ate a particular way and got good SKULLS. Then the article proceeds to talk about peoples body fat arent affected by their diet. These are two separate things.'

Carnivore people believes that it is the fat soluble vitamins in the meat that results in the good skulls, not the chewing of hard stuff. In the primitive cultures studied by Weston Price, there were tribes eating not hard things (fish) and they still had good skulls.

A lot of people lose tonnes of fat with carnivore so it would be strange to say that it is a small factor.

It would be interesting if the exceptions you mentions are ONLY for people with good skulls.

I myself have crooked teeth but I seem to never gain weight despite how much I eat.

EDIT - Go to any bodybuilder forum or similar. Search "hardgainer". Youll find countless of guys that say that they never gain any weight despite what they eat. I dont think these people have good skulls, just as I dont have it myself. I just think its part of set-point theory. We hardgainers were thin as we surpassed 18 years old or so, and then the body doesnt want to gain weight regardless of bone structure.

EGK's avatar

I've met plenty of people that have damaged skulls/skeletons that cant put on weight.. so i fully align that not putting on weight doesnt necessarily always equate to good biomechanics.

But i still think my points are valid... if a person can go from shitty biomechanics to achieve perfect body while completely ignoring diet & exercise... then biomechanics are the true root cause.

sue's avatar

And are you telling people the fast exercises now? Last I read about it you said you didn't want to but were thinking about it.

EGK's avatar

that was a long time ago. The 'fast method' has been on our skool community for at least 4 months.

livelaugh's avatar

Why/how is it that some have good biomechanics? I agree it starts in the womb of mother. But why was this mom/person had good biomechanics?

EGK's avatar

they inherited good mechanics from a mother with good body proportions who had a child before she screwed her body up.